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Nov 1 2011, 05:42 AM
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IPF Regular ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Monterey Peninsula, California Member No.: 2,146 My Pump: Animas Ping |
Last week I developed a severe neck pain issue and I avoided the pain meds with acetaminophen because of Dexie. After a couple of days, I called Dexcom support to ask what would happen if I took some (read that it helps with swelling). The tech support person told me that it would effect the readings for 4 to 6 hours depending on my metabolism. Seemed worth it, so I took some hydrocodone stuff that had acetominophen. About 20 to 30 minutes later, Dexie shrieked at me that I had jumped over 100 points. I had not eaten any food for hours and hours. I called Dexcom, was told to put it in a different room for 8 to 10 hours.
The next morning (Saturday) I had waited 10 hours. I couldn't get rid of the ERROR I so I called Dexcom again. She took me through a process but couldn't fix it and told me to put in a new sensor. Sunday I spent 6 hours in the ER. After waiting, cat scan of neck, and more waiting, they gave me a weak muscle relaxer (I remembered to tell them 'no acetaminophen) and told me to see my doctor the next day. This afternoon, Monday, my doctor gave me a bunch of shots in the head/neck area and told me not to worry about my BG going up due to the cortisone. Then he gave me perscriptions for percoset and a strong form of soma (muscle relaxer)t. I got home and read the label......I had forgotten to tell him 'no acetaminophen'. I have a new sensor in (the other one was nearing a week), but the pain won. I took the meds. Dexcom receiver is now in another room and I just hope that the this new sensor will not freak out as the older one did. Does anyone have experience with pain killers that have acetaminophen. It is working, a few hours ago I could not have typed this. Suzam |
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Nov 1 2011, 06:11 PM
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![]() IPF Regular ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 114 Joined: 31-January 08 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 830 My Pump: medtronic 522 |
I wasn't aware of any increase to BG bc of acetaminophin. To be honest, if it were me, and I needed it, I would use it and set a temp basal
That's the beauty of pumping, no? |
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Nov 1 2011, 06:31 PM
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IPF Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4,466 Joined: 6-October 06 From: Florida Member No.: 30 My Pump: MM Revel with CGMS |
I wasn't aware of any increase to BG bc of acetaminophin. To be honest, if it were me, and I needed it, I would use it and set a temp basal That's the beauty of pumping, no? The acetaminophin does not cause a rise in BG. It has some sort of effect on interstitial tissue that makes Dexcom FALSELY indicate high BG. That's why they told Suzan to put the Dex receiver in the other room for 6 hours! Linda B. -------------------- Linda
Forum Moderator Pumping with Minimed since 1995 Paradigm Revel w/ CGMS |
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Nov 1 2011, 06:34 PM
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Diabetical Pundit ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,388 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Colorado Member No.: 857 My Pump: mm 522 |
This phenomenon is documented on the Dexcom site: http://www.dexcom.com/safety-information.
Here is what they say: "Contraindications The SEVEN PLUS System must be removed prior to Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI). Use of acetaminophen-containing medications while the SEVEN Sensor is inserted may affect the performance of the device." Tom -------------------- Tom
Forum moderator LADA - dx'd 1985 at age 31 - treated as type 2 Insulin therapy in 1987 mm 522 since Aug. 2007, cgms since Nov. 2007 |
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Nov 1 2011, 06:36 PM
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IPF Rookie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 10-October 11 From: Texas Member No.: 3,885 My Pump: Animas Ping |
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Nov 1 2011, 09:08 PM
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IPF Regular ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Monterey Peninsula, California Member No.: 2,146 My Pump: Animas Ping |
I wasn't aware of any increase to BG bc of acetaminophin. To be honest, if it were me, and I needed it, I would use it and set a temp basal That's the beauty of pumping, no? The instruction that come with Dexcom say to not use acetaminophin. I don't know if that is true for other CGMS. They say it will screw up the readings. As I wrote, within 30 minuters, the Dexcom indicated a rise in over 100 points. A BG test showed otherwise. I had not eaten anything for hours. As for setting a temp basal rate, that wouldn't work because my BG hadn't gone up. Actually, I think it will just give a wide variety of readings, no pattern. This post has been edited by Suzan: Nov 1 2011, 09:09 PM |
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Nov 2 2011, 06:47 PM
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![]() Insulin Juggler ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 23-March 08 From: San Jose, CA, USA Member No.: 1,014 My Pump: Paradigm 723 Dexcom |
The instruction that come with Dexcom say to not use acetaminophin. I don't know if that is true for other CGMS. They say it will screw up the readings. As I wrote, within 30 minuters, the Dexcom indicated a rise in over 100 points. A BG test showed otherwise. I had not eaten anything for hours. As for setting a temp basal rate, that wouldn't work because my BG hadn't gone up. Actually, I think it will just give a wide variety of readings, no pattern. AFAIK, this is true for Dexcom only. I've used both the MM and Navigator systems and never seen any response to acetaminophen. |
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Apr 20 2012, 08:54 PM
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IPF Regular ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 15-January 11 Member No.: 3,436 My Pump: Medtronic Revel 723 |
I've known about Tylenol and the Dexcom system not being compatible since the day I got mine. My question is: When is DEXCOM going to fix this issue? It seems like they charge enough for the system and the sensors to warrant some attention to the problem.
-------------------- Type 1 Dx 4-21-2003
Medtronic 723, 8-21-2010 Dexcom CGMS. 9-2007 - self funded |
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Apr 20 2012, 09:48 PM
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Diabetical Pundit ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,388 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Colorado Member No.: 857 My Pump: mm 522 |
.... My question is: When is DEXCOM going to fix this issue? ... Probably not until they radically change the sensor. Evidently, they use a different enzyme than the MM sensors - and a lot of test strips. That enzyme is called glucose oxidase, and acetaminophen doesn't appear to affect those readings.Dexcom must use something totally different that does have an interaction with the acetaminophen. I personally wouldn't hold my breath until they change. Having said that, it seems a small price to pay for the advantages of the Dexcom. I'd sure like to trial one for side-by-side comparison with my MM CGM. Tom -------------------- Tom
Forum moderator LADA - dx'd 1985 at age 31 - treated as type 2 Insulin therapy in 1987 mm 522 since Aug. 2007, cgms since Nov. 2007 |
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Apr 20 2012, 11:04 PM
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IPF Regular ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 15-January 11 Member No.: 3,436 My Pump: Medtronic Revel 723 |
In order to do your trial side-by-side comparison a person would need really "deep pockets" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
It would be an interesting outcome to be sure. -------------------- Type 1 Dx 4-21-2003
Medtronic 723, 8-21-2010 Dexcom CGMS. 9-2007 - self funded |
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