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Are the school staff crazy!!!, Cousin went to hospital

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Disneygirly View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Jun 8 2009, 04:24 PM Post #1
IPF Rookie Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 7-July 08 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 1,247 My Pump: minimed 722	My cousin lives up in Idaho and the school nurse took it apon herself to make modifications to my cousins diet. My cousin, who is 10 years old, went to the hospital because the school nurse said my cousin did not have enough carbs in his diet and he ended up in DKA!!! The law in each state is different but they state in Idaho that the school can do whatever they want once the child steps onto school property. I totally disagree! I cannot believe this kind of behavior is still going on today. School staff needs to be educated about different dietary and medical requirements. -Gina

Linda B View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Jun 8 2009, 04:42 PM Post #2
IPF Addict Group: Moderator Posts: 4,467 Joined: 6-October 06 From: Florida Member No.: 30 My Pump: MM Revel with CGMS	QUOTE(Disneygirly @ Jun 8 2009, 12:24 PM) My cousin lives up in Idaho and the school nurse took it apon herself to make modifications to my cousins diet. My cousin, who is 10 years old, went to the hospital because the school nurse said my cousin did not have enough carbs in his diet and he ended up in DKA!!! The law in each state is different but they state in Idaho that the school can do whatever they want once the child steps onto school property. I totally disagree! I cannot believe this kind of behavior is still going on today. School staff needs to be educated about different dietary and medical requirements. -Gina How awful! What bothers me the most is that a nurse would not realize that he needed more insulin if she was forcing him to have more carbs. Linda -------------------- Linda Forum Moderator Pumping with Minimed since 1995 Paradigm Revel w/ CGMS

JohnG View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Jun 8 2009, 05:03 PM Post #3
IPF Addict Group: Members Posts: 1,915 Joined: 4-January 09 From: Dallas, Texas Member No.: 1,726 My Pump: Paradigm 723/CGMS	QUOTE(Disneygirly @ Jun 8 2009, 11:24 AM) My cousin lives up in Idaho and the school nurse took it apon herself to make modifications to my cousins diet. My cousin, who is 10 years old, went to the hospital because the school nurse said my cousin did not have enough carbs in his diet and he ended up in DKA!!! The law in each state is different but they state in Idaho that the school can do whatever they want once the child steps onto school property. I totally disagree! I cannot believe this kind of behavior is still going on today. School staff needs to be educated about different dietary and medical requirements. -Gina Gina I have never heard of someone suffering from DKA because of to many carbs. Most of the time it's the lack of insulin that brings this on. JohnG -------------------- John T1-LADA 1988 Paradigm-723/CGMS

Linda B View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Jun 8 2009, 05:17 PM Post #4
IPF Addict Group: Moderator Posts: 4,467 Joined: 6-October 06 From: Florida Member No.: 30 My Pump: MM Revel with CGMS	QUOTE(JohnG @ Jun 8 2009, 01:03 PM) Gina I have never heard of someone suffering from DKA because of to many carbs. Most of the time it's the lack of insulin that brings this on. JohnG John, A type 1 needs the right about of insulin to compensate for the amount of carbs. If his carb intake was changed dramatically, and his insulin was not adjusted, he would, in effect, have a lack of ENOUGH insulin. I agree it would have to be a dramatic change, assuming he had some insulin in his body. But if he is a pumper, then he has no long acting insulin, so having an extreme shortage of insulin delivered for the meal could cause DKA. Gina, Do you know if he's a pumper or not? If he's on Lantus, then I agree with John that DKA should not be caused by a single meal. Linda -------------------- Linda Forum Moderator Pumping with Minimed since 1995 Paradigm Revel w/ CGMS

JohnG View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Jun 8 2009, 07:46 PM Post #5
IPF Addict Group: Members Posts: 1,915 Joined: 4-January 09 From: Dallas, Texas Member No.: 1,726 My Pump: Paradigm 723/CGMS	QUOTE(Linda B @ Jun 8 2009, 12:17 PM) John, A type 1 needs the right about of insulin to compensate for the amount of carbs. If his carb intake was changed dramatically, and his insulin was not adjusted, he would, in effect, have a lack of ENOUGH insulin. I agree it would have to be a dramatic change, assuming he had some insulin in his body. But if he is a pumper, then he has no long acting insulin, so having an extreme shortage of insulin delivered for the meal could cause DKA. Gina, Do you know if he's a pumper or not? If he's on Lantus, then I agree with John that DKA should not be caused by a single meal. Linda I guess it could happen. JohnG -------------------- John T1-LADA 1988 Paradigm-723/CGMS

Liz View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Jun 8 2009, 11:08 PM Post #6
IPF Addict Group: Members Posts: 3,197 Joined: 4-June 08 From: NYC Member No.: 1,173 My Pump: Minimed Revel	QUOTE(JohnG @ Jun 8 2009, 01:03 PM) Gina I have never heard of someone suffering from DKA because of to many carbs. Most of the time it's the lack of insulin that brings this on. JohnG I agree, especially if you're on injections and have long acting insulin. I know that when I was on 2 injections a day (NPH/Regular) I rarely checked my BG and ate whatever I wanted. Didn't pay attention to carbs or anything. My BGs ran extremely high but I didn't end up in the hospital. A high BG does not necessarily equal DKA. -------------------- -- Liz Type 1 4/27/87 Minimed Revel 723 + CGMS

Payden View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Aug 21 2009, 06:16 PM Post #7
IPF Rookie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 21-August 09 From: Utah Member No.: 2,285 My Pump: Animas 2020	Hi, I have had diabetes for almost 6 years now and last year i had a seizure at school on the blacktop right after lunch! (dont know how it happened) I am 11 and i love my animas 2020 my friend Marty likes his to!

Dave_ View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Aug 21 2009, 06:40 PM Post #8
IPF Addict Group: Banned Posts: 2,274 Joined: 13-November 06 Member No.: 100	QUOTE(Disneygirly @ Jun 8 2009, 09:24 AM) My cousin lives up in Idaho and the school nurse took it apon herself to make modifications to my cousins diet. My cousin, who is 10 years old, went to the hospital because the school nurse said my cousin did not have enough carbs in his diet and he ended up in DKA!!! The law in each state is different but they state in Idaho that the school can do whatever they want once the child steps onto school property. I totally disagree! I cannot believe this kind of behavior is still going on today. School staff needs to be educated about different dietary and medical requirements. -Gina Sounds as if the nurse didn't want to have to deal with a kid who might go low, so she took it upon herself to make sure the kid was high. If I were the parents I'd speak with an attorney to see what rights, if any, are being abridged. -------------------- Diagnosed T1 in 1978 MDI: 1978 -1996 Started pumping in '96 (MM 506) MM523 (Blue Revel) - My wife is a fellow pumper (Pink Revel) Sets: Sure-T

Rhea's Rockets View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Apr 13 2012, 01:27 AM Post #9
Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 13-April 12 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 4,207 My Pump: MiniMed Paradgim	We have been blessed as our school nurse went to the pump traing and is very active in pump managment and education. Thanks Lisa!