Enlite sensor Options

[gigem99]

I was reading on another diabetical mailing list about a new sensor that MM has come out with in Europe. The guy that posted the message is from Greece, and is quite knowlegable about MM sensors. He went to the ATTD (Advanced Technologies and Treatments for Diabetes) Congress in London recently, and posted some pictures of the new sensor on his facebook page here: Nikos' facbook page.

The sensor is called Enlite, but a google search about it turns up maddeningly little information. Has anyone here heard of this new sensor? Got any decent links about it? I think I saw a discussion on Tudiabetes about it - I'm headed over there to see what they say.

Tom

[Liz]

Tom,

There's probably no information about it because it's not actually released yet. Minimed stays pretty tightlipped about new products until they're 100% ready to ship out. I really hope that the FDA doesn't hold up its release for too long here. I'm also dying to know more about Minimed's next pump platform, which is supposed to be different from the Paradigm. I'm pretty happy with the Paradigm pumps and I'm having a hard time coming up with ways a new pump can be very different.

[JohnG]

The only information I have found on the use of the new Enlite sensor is that
Stanford University started a Clinical trial on SureT’s and QuickSets and they will
be using the new Enlite sensor to collect data.

In the trial description they make note that the sensor has still not received FDA approval.

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01288729

We will just have to wait, there are hundreds of products waiting for approval on a first come
first served basses and if they make any kind of mistake they get sent to the back of the line.

[Liz]

The only information I have found on the use of the new Enlite sensor is that
Stanford University started a Clinical trial on SureT’s and QuickSets and they will
be using the new Enlite sensor to collect data.

Hmmmm, I wonder if they're using this study to decide if it really is safe for infusion sets to be worn longer than 3 days. I know many people do use sets longer than three days but I can't imagine going an entire week with the same set.

[gigem99]

... I know many people do use sets longer than three days but I can't imagine going an entire week with the same set.

My audiologist (hearing aid lady) is a Type 1, and she regularly uses her infusion sets (Sils) for 6 days. She only uses her abdomen.

I scolded her the last time I saw her - she is really gonna get a bunch of unneeded/unwanted scar tissue.

Tom

[JohnG]

Hmmmm, I wonder if they're using this study to decide if it really is safe for infusion sets to be worn longer than 3 days. I know many people do use sets longer than three days but I can't imagine going an entire week with the same set.

It's not a very big study group just 20 MM pumpers. I wounder how many of them will
make it the full 7 days without a site failure. They are probably using the Enlite because
it will run for 7 days and the test subjects will not have to go in for a sensor change in the
middle of the week. I think the test is to compare how long it takes for someone to reject
the plastic cannula compared to the steel needle.

[Liz]

It's not a very big study group just 20 MM pumpers. I wounder how many of them will
make it the full 7 days without a site failure. They are probably using the Enlite because
it will run for 7 days and the test subjects will not have to go in for a sensor change in the
middle of the week. I think the test is to compare how long it takes for someone to reject
the plastic cannula compared to the steel needle.

I know a lot of people say that the needle sets don't last as long as the teflon sets but I have no problems wearing a Sure-T for 3 days. I know I've gone 4 days a few times but not on purpose.

The Enlite sensor may run for 7 days but the pumps are still the same and will insist that the sensor has ended after 72 hours and give the Weak Signal alerts after 7 days. My current Minimed sensors can run over a month if I'm lucky but I still have to keep removing the transmitter every 7 days.

[Linda B]

I know a lot of people say that the needle sets don't last as long as the teflon sets but I have no problems wearing a Sure-T for 3 days. I know I've gone 4 days a few times but not on purpose.

The Enlite sensor may run for 7 days but the pumps are still the same and will insist that the sensor has ended after 72 hours and give the Weak Signal alerts after 7 days. My current Minimed sensors can run over a month if I'm lucky but I still have to keep removing the transmitter every 7 days.

I have been wearing Sure-Ts for 3 days with no problems for the past couple of weeks, but today I ran into a problem with one after 2 days. I think it matters where I insert them. This one was above my waist. The ones below my waist last 3 days lately.

Maybe they have a new transmitter to go with the new sensor. The timeouts are in the Transmitter, not in the pump.

Linda B.

[tedm]

The Enlite sensor may run for 7 days but the pumps are still the same and will insist that the sensor has ended after 72 hours and give the Weak Signal alerts after 7 days. My current Minimed sensors can run over a month if I'm lucky but I still have to keep removing the transmitter every 7 days.

I doubt they will be using the participant's pump as the receiver for the sensor. I'd bet that MM has supplied Gardians with custom software to run for the full week.

Maybe they have a new transmitter to go with the new sensor. The timeouts are in the Transmitter, not in the pump.

Actually, AFAIK, the 3-day timeout is in the pump. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to just do a start-new-sensor on the pump after 3 days.

The 7-day timeout is in the transmitter.

/Ted

This post has been edited by tedm: Feb 26 2011, 12:31 AM

[anderfo]

There's one timeout in the pump (Veo: 6 days, Revel: 3 days) and one timeout in the transmitter (7 days).
Since my sensors now last only ~5-6 days (earlier I was running them for 12-14 days on average) it doesn't really matter any more; when the sensor is dead I insert a new sensor and recharge the transmitter.

I've also heard rumors of a new and smaller sensor (probably Enlite), from the Minimed representatives in my country.
They didn't say anything about the transmitter but I really hope that they make a more comfortable one soon. It always hurts when I bend over to tie my shoes, and regularly the sensor and transmitter are both hurting when I am rock climbing.

[Ali]

It always hurts when I bend over to tie my shoes, and regularly the sensor and transmitter are both hurting when I am rock climbing.

Have you tried wearing your sensor in your upper butt/lower back? I find it much more comfortable there because it it doesn't move as much when I bend over. I find I get more accurate results there too. I guess you'd need to experiment so it didn't interfer with your climbing harness though?

[JohnG]

Have you tried wearing your sensor in your upper butt/lower back? I find it much more comfortable there because it it doesn't move as much when I bend over. I find I get more accurate results there too. I guess you'd need to experiment so it didn't interfer with your climbing harness though?

Please explain how you install a sensor on your backside, I can use QuickSets or Sure-T’s on my backside but find
it virtually imposable to install a sensor or a Silhouette.

[Ali]

Please explain how you install a sensor on your backside, I can use QuickSets or Sure-T’s on my backside but find
it virtually imposable to install a sensor or a Silhouette.

I'm really bad at explaining things like this, (and I'm certainly not publishing a video of it on the internet) so bear with me!

Stand in front of a mirror with your back to it and turn your head so you can at least what you're aiming at.
Hold the senserter thingy ready loaded in the same hand as the buttock/lower back you want to put it in (ie right buttock, right hand).
Put that hand around your back (buttock is easier than back here because you don't twist as much).
Fire it in, remove senserter and twist your body round a bit to pull the needle out.
I actually find the hardest bit putting the stickies on over it for some reason.

It is easier if you can convince someone to do it for you, I sometimes bring the husband into service for this, but I do it on my own most of the time.

This post has been edited by Ali: Feb 26 2011, 01:50 PM

[JohnG]

I'm really bad at explaining things like this, (and I'm certainly not publishing a video of it on the internet) so bear with me!

Stand in front of a mirror with your back to it and turn your head so you can at least what you're aiming at.
Hold the senserter thingy ready loaded in the same hand as the buttock/lower back you want to put it in (ie right buttock, right hand).
Put that hand around your back (buttock is easier than back here because you don't twist as much).
Fire it in, remove senserter and twist your body round a bit to pull the needle out.
I actually find the hardest bit putting the stickies on over it for some reason.

It is easier if you can convince someone to do it for you, I sometimes bring the husband into service for this, but I do it on my own most of the time.

I’m not very nimble, I tried to get my wife to install one but she couldn’t stop shaking long enough to get the job done.

[Liz]

I have put a few sensors on my upper butt area. Inserting the sensor wasn't that hard because of the serter, but getting the needle out, attaching the transmitter and taping it down was trickier. Every time I felt like I pulled a muscle and was very sore for a long time after. The sensors did work well but none of them went longer than a week, probably because I ended up lifting the sensor out a bit while trying to remove everything. I wore my pump clipped in the front pocket of my jeans and since I didn't place the sensor too far toward my middle back, but more toward the outside, the communication between pump + transmitter was fine.

I have never had an infusion set of any kind work in that area. I've tried Quick-Sets, Silhouettes & Sure-Ts there.

[Marty]

This is my favorite sensor site. I don't use a mirror-too confusing. I just twist around and insert manually. My sensors typically last 2-3 weeks, sometimes longer. Maybe all of my yoga classes have paid off!

Marty

[gigem99]

I've never even tried to use anything but my abdomen for my sensors - just chicken, I guess, because they all work really well there.

I can get a QS in my upper butt, though - it's one of my favorite places.

Tom

[tedm]

Someone on another forum found a MM Australia page for the Enlite: http://www.medtronic-diabetes.com.au/stage...ite-sensor.html

[Linda B]

Someone on another forum found a MM Australia page for the Enlite: http://www.medtronic-diabetes.com.au/stage...ite-sensor.html

WOW. I'm not sure how I feel about the inserter; it looks like it would be easy to forget to press the button to release the sensor. It's interesting that they do not show the thighs as a place for insertion; I know many of us have the best luck with the current sensor on our legs.

I had to press the volume icon on the right hand side to turn on the sound.

Linda B.

[Mike G]

Someone on another forum found a MM Australia page for the Enlite: http://www.medtronic-diabetes.com.au/stage...ite-sensor.html

This looks great and they have addressed many of the current issues I have with the sensor - taping, insertion, etc. God speed Medtronic - get it approved here!